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 The "Auntification" of Carl Jung 
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Post The "Auntification" of Carl Jung
I'd like to open a new thread with something I dealt already with -- however without too much response -- in the Kaleidoscope: The "Tantifizierung" ("auntification") of Carl Jung in his Memories, Dreams Reflections and the falsifying of his written statements by the editors (See Bair, pp. 626-40:

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On page 611 of her biography Deirdre Bair (2003) writes:

In his report, Hull described Jung as profoundly distressed by changes to his 'authentic' text: 'He impressed upon me, with the utmost emphasis, that he had said what he wanted to say in his own way, 'a bit blunt and crude sometimes,' and that he did not want his work to be 'tantifiziert' [auntified]." With "auntification," Jung coined a new expression that soon became an internal code word for Hull and the publishers.

As we can read on p. 633 Jung wrote that "God shit ont the Basle Cathedral," and this was "auntified" in "God drop an enormous turd upon it."

The trouble of all this is that in MDR we do not see anymore that Carl Jung talked like this, "blunt and crude," and like this lived his inferior feeling function. It was his intention, since he saw that only like this he was able to become whole. The same attitude I experienced with Marie-Louise von Franz -- and I hope that some more Jungians have the courage to live their inferior feelings. Of course in personal rapports and not in the anonymity of the internet.


'Here stands the mean uncomely stone,
Tis very cheap in price!
The more it is despised by fools,
The more loved by the wise.'
(C.G. Jung, MDR, p. 253)
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:58 am
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My first reaction was, that you said everything that needs to be said. So, how do we find out what he really said? I suppose the Biography you referenced is a good source.

I also heard that Jung was distinctly 'different' with different people. I'm guessing this was a conscious decision on his part, though I guess he had his natural reactions as well.


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When the evening is spread out against the sky
Like a patient etherised upon a table;"
-T.S. Eliot: The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock

Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:15 am
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