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 Synchronicity on the Sign, George! 
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Post Synchronicity on the Sign, George!
I just woke up from a somewhat disturbing dream.

I was with some friends at the White House (or some other government building). G. W. Bush invited my friend and I upstairs to some sort of meeting where Jon Stewart from the Daily Show and Stephen Colbert from the Colbert Report (both shows are satirical news shows on Comedy Central) were present among others. Before the meeting (W. was late getting to the meeting on time), my friend and I were standing by the window (we had taken an elevator to the top floor, at least it was the top floor since the floor above it looked like it had been folded down somehow). When I looked out the window I saw a sign that had some words listed on it, but the one that stood out was "Synchronicity". I didn't bring it up to anyone. W. finally showed up and we watched a movie on a TV.

All I remember from the movie is a baby that had a surprisingly large vocabulary. I remember its father punishing it for something and sprinkling some white stuff on him. The white baby then cried to its mother and then went to go to bed and said goodnight. His older black sister said goodnight and "What happened to your tooth?"

The movie ended and I went to the window again, but to my surprise the sign was obstructed by some sort of other sign or board that was blank and had nothing written on it.

I announced I had a question for the administration. After what seemed like forever of George W. Bush nervously explaining away all the so-called conspiracy theories, I told him my question had nothing to do with that. I brought him to the window, and told him I had seen a sign with "Synchronicity" on it and now it is obstructed. I asked if any of them knew what synchronicity was and they said they did not. I then exclaimed, "You're running the country and you don't even know what synchronicity is?! You're a bunch of lunatics!" or something to that effect. Then security escorted me to the elevator and proceeded to pummel me, although I had images of being on fire and being run over by a car on the way down. Then I woke up.

Strange, huh?

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Post Schizonicity
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Just an intutive idea:

24 hours ago, on 01 Aug 2006 08:48 pm you wrote in the thread Synchronicity and Schizophrenia ( http://unus-mundus.fr/viewtopic ... ight=#2357 )

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Schizonicity
I guess I meant to say how synchronicity relates to schizophrenia. I'd like to learn more about this.


Then you dreamt this dream about W (huge power) and Synchronicity

If you look up my first remarks in this thread you can read the following:

Remo Roth wrote:
Carl G. Jung, Letters, vol. 2, p. 409-10, letter of Jan 14, 1958:

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“Your question concerning synchronicity and ideas of reference is very interesting indeed. I have often found that synchronistic experiences were interpreted by schizophrenics as delusions. [huge font] … The schizophrenic’s interpretation is morbidly narrow because it is mostly restricted to the intentions of other people and to his own ego-importance. The normal interpretation, so far as this is possible at all, is based on the philosophic premise of the sympathy of all things, or something of that kind. …

Ideas of reference arise as a concomitant symptom of the patient’s wrong understanding, and consequent repression, of his psychic situation. Then what should normally have been an expression of the sympathy of all things turns into a pseudo-rationalistic attempt to explain the missing sympathy, so in place of the uniting Eros he feels a divisive fear or a hatred which is its opposite. The pathological factor is that the original participation in all things is perverted into a negation on rational or other plausible grounds which seem obvious enough to the average intelligence. Not only is no account taken of the significance of this sympathy, but the religious attitude is also lacking which sees in it a divine will that has to be served accordingly.

So, the deepest problem seems to be a lack of a religious attitude in its original meaning: Eros, connectedness, sympathy is replaced by its contrary: perverted Logos (i.e., pure rational intellect and will-possession) and the related power, hatered and antipathy.


Could it be that we can understand your dream on this basis? Since you seem to have a mediumistic talent, I think this is possible ...

Remo

PS: Perhaps also Suzanne's post in http://unus-mundus.fr/viewtopic ... ight=#2359 belongs to this topic.

PPS: Does Tony Blair slowly smell the rat?

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I think you're right, Remo. Thank you.

I just remembered another part of the dream. Before the movie started, everyone was standing, and when we went to sit down everyone's chairs were turned facing the window. In the dream, I thought John Stewart had done this as a prank. "Very funny, John", I said, but he gave me a glance like he didn't know what I was talking about.

Perhaps this is to say that while everyone was too busy being caught up in the constant distractions created by Bush, we haven't bothered to stop and see our truth and spirituality being blockaded by the likes of a psychopath.

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Michael wrote:
Perhaps this is to say that while everyone was too busy being caught up in the constant distractions created by Bush, we haven't bothered to stop and see our truth and spirituality being blockaded by the likes of a psychopath.

Meditating,
Michael


The point is that W the psycho is also the ultimate representative of the most dominating culture at the moment.

He is what he is where he is because the collective works that way.

So as Remo says:

Remo wrote:
... the deepest problem seems to be a lack of a religious attitude in its original meaning: Eros, connectedness, sympathy is replaced by its contrary: perverted Logos (i.e., pure rational intellect and will-possession) and the related power, hatered and antipathy.


We all are responsible for such a situation, and political opposition is not enough. The only way is going down in deep introversion, even putting aside any intention as noble as it can be.

No that easy.

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Post Thanks again, Roger
Ah, thanks for the great insight, Roger. I understand now.

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Haha, this is funny. I'm watching the Daily Show right now, and they just had a segment that highlights all of Bush's eating habits. He's always stuffing his face, talking about eating at press meetings, etc.

John Stewart just said "I give up, you're f****ing insane!"

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Remo,

It was my fault. I should have explained a little more.

I thought it was humorous because after Roger posited that Bush is representative of all of American culture, the Daily Show then had this piece on Bush about him gaining weight. America, as I'm sure you all know, is the fattest country. So this led me to give credence to Roger's implication.

Jon Stewart called Bush crazy for something, and then after showing a clip of Bush saying he ate lobster with his brother and some of the ['78] Miami Dolphins, Jon made the comment about W. being " F***ing insane".

Michael

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Roger wrote:
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for such a situation, and political opposition is not enough. The only way is going down in deep introversion, even putting aside any intention as noble as it can be.


Yes, I agree completely. Only if some Eros egos melt with the Eros Self we can hope that this incredibly dangerous situation initialized by the Western collective consciousness will change.

Remo

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